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However, no Hermunduri appear in Ptolemy, though after the time of Ptolemy the Hermunduri joined with the Marcomanni in the wars of 166 – 180 against the empire.

A careful reading of Tacitus provides one solution.

He says that the source of the Elbe is among the Hermunduri, somewhat to the east of the upper Main.

He places them also between the Naristi ( Varisti ), whose location at the very edge of the ancient Black Forest is well known, and the Marcomanni and Quadi.

Moreover, the Hermunduri were broken in the Marcomannic Wars and made a separate peace with Rome.

The Alemanni thus were probably not primarily the Hermunduri, although some elements of them may have been present in the mix of peoples at that time that became Alemannian.