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Nevertheless some conclusions can be drawn from Ptolemy.
Germania Superior is easily identified.
Following up the Rhine one comes to a town, Mattiacum, which must be at the border of the Roman Germany ( vicinity of Wiesbaden ).
Upstream from it and between the Rhine and Abnoba ( in the Black Forest ) are the Ingriones, Intuergi, Vangiones, Caritni and Vispi, some of whom were there since the days of the early empire or before.
On the other side of the northern Black Forest were the Chatti about where Hesse is today, on the lower Main.

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