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In 1979, Collins re-joined Brand X for part of the series of recording sessions, which would generate enough material for two albums, 1979's Product and 1980's Do They Hurt ?.
These took place at Startling Studios, located in Ringo Starr's countryside home ( formerly owned by John Lennon ), with two distinct line-ups operating in alternation ( Mike Clark again providing drums on the other tracks ), as Percy Jones later explained.
" Our record and management companies were both complaining about poor record sales and telling us we had to make the music more accessible.
Some of the guys agreed to go along with this, but I felt, that to do this would not generate a new audience but would probably just alienate the one, that we already had.
The only solution was to have two bands, one being more accessible and the other being more experimental.
For my stuff the lineup was Robinson, Clark, Goodsall and me ; for the other direction it was Lumley, Collins and Goodsall with John Giblin on bass.
We recorded in shifts, ours was 8pm to 4am and the others, 10am to 6pm ".

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